Let’s take these two statements for example.
You’re a coward.
You’re acting like a coward.
The semantic difference between those statements is pretty big, with the first meant to be insulting and harsh, and the second more of a gentle, snap-out-of-it kind of thing. Between these two statements the actual words of Jean Schmidt lean toward the second and since she immediately followed up and said it wasn’t meant to be personal.
All that is partially a response to VikingSpirit, who has a thoughtful post on the subject, and also to sum up my thoughts on the matter.
My personal definition of a coward is someone who refuses to do what needs to be done out of concern for personal impact. Now that personally cannot apply to Murtha who did indeed serve in the military honorably.
But Murtha is also promoting a policy that advocates that the US stop providing security for elements in Iraq that need that support. and the reason for that is the impact of that policy on our armed forces. I’m not saying that the butcher’s bill not be a consideration in public planning, but the President makes decisions based on many factors, one of them is the cost of doing nothing.
In this case the cost of doing nothing was to leave Saddam in power, the terrorist training camps in Iraq in place and whatever it was that Saddam was up to with WMD’s alone. Clearly that had to stop.
The cost of leaving right now would be to abandon Iraq to the terrorists. I do not share Murthas optimistic view that we are keeping the Iraqi’s from stepping up and taking care of their own messes.
But Murtha’s view is that the cost of doing nothing right now is irrelevant, the big problem is that soldiers are dying and that this is the overriding factor over any others. I’ve read Murtha’s statements and watched a bit of the news shows this morning. Murtha does not have a decent definition of when the national interest requires war. He does not talk in those terms at all. His argument seems to be
1. That the current people running the war are screwing it up
2. There is nothing that can be further accomplished militarily in Iraq.
3. That the war is killing and injuring soldiers
Therefore we must leave ASAP.
The first may or may not be valid, but tactical problems mean tactical answers, not giving up.
The second part is misleading at best and a lie at worst. From providing security to clearing and holding positions, our military is doing a tremendous amount every day and are the best equipped and available units to do that mission right now. If our troops withdrew there would be large sections of Iraq run by former Baathists, terrorists and other such malcontents. No reasonable person denies this, but Murtha does. Making him the spokesperson of the Democratic party was a brilliant move for Bush and a springloaded trap the Dems just walked right into.
The third makes no sense except to provide emotional impact because every war kills and injures soldiers. This should not be a consideration unless the national interest does not outweigh the cost in blood. But again, Murtha does not talk about national interest.
It would be helpful if I knew what his definition of national interest was and what sort of events would trigger it. So to me, it’s Murtha’s proposed policy that is cowardly, because my definition fits.
Very nicely said.
[...] Also, enjoy how both NixGuy and Project Logic regail us with their verbal gymnastics in justifying Schmidt’s/Bubp’s comments. Remind us what the definition of “is” is again? [...]
1) We are not winning in any way, just like Vietnam we have no currency with the iraqi people - we occupy a city, the insurgents withdraw, we leave, they move back in. It is not possible to maintain the level of violence that is occuring in Iraq with the explicit assistance of the general population, we are invaders and every day we are creating more terrorists not reducing them.
2) Are Shi’ite Muslims Clerics (as in Iran) better than Baa’thists ? Prehaps, marginally, but not really, yet they represent the majority of iraqis, Shia’s are more extreme than Sunnis!
yet this is who we handing the reins of government to.
3) Ms. Schmidt’s comments are the typical BS kneejerk crap that passes for policy these days, this isn’t a football game. Her comments besides being a totally inappropriate, represent what this adminstration’s usually policy “discussions” involve. ad hominem attacks on the opposition speakers, rather than providing any real plans or do you feel we can maintain this level of military occupation indefinitely ? They have no policy so just diss the opposition ? Where are the specifics ?
Did you really write this or is it satire from The Onion?
[...] I note with some satisfaction, that Ann makes the same distinction I did, while Murtha himself may not be coward, his actions certainly are cowardly. [...]